Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs
By: Lumni1968 to phigan on Wed Mar 11 2026 11:50:40

I prefer XFCE4 to KDE or Gnome. > > use Slackware and Gnome seems to > > a lot slower > > if you ever want super light, try something like openbox.

I might have to check that out.

Good thing you folks are still on the machines that are cool with X11. Try stuff on some Surface
tablets or perhaps also other kinds of Intel IGP and you may run into issues that may be related tohow we switched from (known to be buggy in a different way) xf86-video-intel kind of drivers to
plain mesa modeset because no one wanted to maintain the X11 mess anymore and the new stack seemed
superior, but then everyone now only maintains Wayland and we can only hope for X11 support to
improve again once Wayback grows to become a backbone of it all.

Currently if you try using the Wayland variant of XFCE4 it is not just experimental, but the
version shipped with even Fedora is from before all the improvements on Wayland were made - so Xfce(Wayland) runs there as just a labwc with decorated misplaced windows with panel content, with all
features of labwc working without a single customization.

And on X11 if you just grab a monitor/laptop that's HiDPI, you will find having to set large pixel
size of everything on a panel in XFCE very unwieldy, for example. Configuring stuff like Openbox,
FVWM, or whatever, for HiDPI, is a PITA.

Then you grab a Wayland compositor/DE and enable scaling (whether fractional or not) and suddenly
the xterm is all blurry due to scaling Ä- whereas it will look great on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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